Parliament is sovereign, and the will of Parliament as ensrined in legislation and applied by Ministers who are responsible to Parliament is of paramount importance. They were voted in to office. Published 3 July 2019. Freudmans Lawyers ought to sue RTC £1000 per day for each day this JR delays the Airport form opening! It is a feature of the DCO process that, in order for more information to be provided by the Secretary of State on the reasons for his decision, the decision must be re-taken, and so the project is effectively back to the final decision stage. The Rabid Right, they don’t like it up ’em! Nothing else. Time we abolished councils. The Council is engaging with the Airspace Change Process for a permanent change to the operation of the airspace in relation to the proposals for commercial operations at Manston Airport. This means the DCO approval for Manston airport will be quashed. It will still re-open as an airport. If the government has not broken the law, they will win. Where are the backers? Waiting in Vain – Bob Marley 4 Planning inspectors tore RSP’s submission to pieces. Usl locals who’ve lived here know it! The people that built all the lovely houses didn’t have an airport, and there won’t be one in the future. Manston Airport has been disused since it was formally closed in 2014. At the last election, a number of councillors made it clear they would not support an airport. “Local residents have done us all service by challenging the minister’s decision and we hope the judicial review produces a good result.”. I have asked lots of times for the pro’s on here to answer a few simply questions, they havent answered one yet ! The substantive hearing – which involves the lodging of evidence from the defendant, and interested party -was due to take place at the High Court on February 16-17 and was to look at whether the Government followed correct procedure in reaching the decision to approve the DCO for landowners RiverOak Strategic Partners. All. Has he found some? Though it has not had much publicity outside east Kent, the application to turn Manston (which has been closed as an airport since May 2014) into a freight airport could be an important case. Those who object to this are presumably against the rule of law and wish law breakers to go free. Jenny says: “Yesterday my solicitors received a letter from the Treasury Solicitor, acting on behalf of the Secretary of State for Transport, which said “my client has agreed to concede this claim on the basis of ground 1(b), namely that the Secretary of State did not give adequate reasons in his decision letter to enable the reader to understand why he disagreed with the Examining Authority Report on the issue of need for the development of Manston Airport”. Will Tony also be suing the MOD and the trifling matter of their ongoing objections to the DCO too? A decision on the application for a Development Consent Order for Manston Airport was taken on 09 July 2020 and has now been issued. It’s important that this is done correctly, in order that Manston can deliver on its full potential, and we welcome the Government’s decision being put on as robust a basis as possible. By the electric prunes. If a DCO is refused, RiverOak Strategic Partners (RSP) may wish to bring a judicial review. “This will be served on the Secretary of State as the Defendant and the developer as an Interested Party. The advice of the Planning Inspectorate was to refuse permission for DCO. I’m now waiting for the nasty comments to appear on the Pro groups but to be fair Beau Webber has forbidden any nasty comments on SMAA unlike Danny Skeedale, admin, on SMA and elsewhere. They were not elected though! https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/support-judicial-review-of-man/. Manston Airport closed in 2014 (Image: Gareth Fuller/PA Wire). The single issue before the High Court Judge who will determine the outcome of this judicial review is whether the DCO, as approved, was consented unlawfully by the decisionmaker. The Council have still not managed to get traffic stoppers for our pedestrian zone – Canterbury has – Ashford has but no we will spend our resources continuing the years long airport fiasco- lets just sit here and rot away allowing no change, traffic stoppers is down to KCC Highways not RTC The secretary of state for transport allowed the DCO into whether the former airport in Thanet, Kent could reopen as a cargo airport with the potential for future passenger flights in July, to a mixed reaction from both supporters and anti-airport campaigners. Date added: March 12, 2020. And now with CV having a huge negative impact on aviation globally, there’s not a snowball in hell’s chance of attracting more than £350M of investment. Also… why do they think that living somewhere their whole life is such an achievement. Well, it means that subject to the constraints laid out in the Planning Act (as amended) and any other laws that may apply, the decisionmaker must look at all relevant issues and decide how best to balance any merits and detriments that there may well be, and he can decide whether to follow or depart from the recommendations of the Examining Authority appointed by another Minister (the Minister for Housing, Communities and Local Government). Perhaps they could do this outside court when we get there? A hearing set for the legal challenge over the government’s decision process in granting permission for the development of Manston airport into an air freight hub will not take place after the Department for Transport/ Secretary of State said the case would not be contested. The decision has in practice been allocated to and taken by the Minister of State for Transport, Andrew … Air travel becoming greener – only when conducted by flying pigs. Manston Airport reopening decision delayed until July. It failed (and failed, etc) because not enough Thant or East Kent people flew from it to make it viable? This will assist me in understanding the financial situation. 1. Manston airport site. End of. They were not voted into office though were they? They will be pouring in vast sums of money from their investors in the manner they have set out in the DCO as consented, once this farce of a DCO is laid to rest. Wake up to the future. Should we draw any conclusions about that? The disused Manston Airport in Ramsgate, Kent, was used to accommodate 4,000 HGVs as a way to ease congestion around the Port of Dover pre-Christmas. There was a vote and Pier’s lot voted against Bayford (who then retired) and the Labour (elected) councillors were asked to take over the reins. A developer has been granted consent to reopen Manston airport as a freight hub – a move described as shocking by the director of CPRE Kent. The Antis have nothing better to do. But today the deadline has been extended for four months - and the government says they need more time to receive information from the applicant. At this stage of the process the CAA have no control or interaction with RSP regarding their application. The legal battle was launched by Jenny Dawes, the chair of Ramsgate Coastal Community Team. The future of Manston Airport has been subjected to further delay in the light of the application for Judicial Review. so many experts lol. It the development of Manston airport is to happen, it will require a new decision to be issued, after a re-examination of the Planning Inspectorate evidence. An announcement on the plans was expected over … Robster, It was RSPs decision to continue with the DCO. Manston airport decision before long, after Planning Inspectorate sends recommendation to Grant Shapps. Obviously, mea culpa: I should have made it clear that the farce is not the DCO. The reasons for opposing the reopening of the airport for freight are partly due to the noise, as the arrival flight path is directly over Ramsgate, near the airport. A substantive hearing date has been set for the legal challenge over the government’s decision process in granting permission for the development of Manston airport. https://theisleofthanetnews.com/2020/12/02/manston-airport-development-approval-to-be-quashed-with-decision-to-be-re-examined-following-legal-challenge-bid/, The Judicial Review of Manston airport webpage, from Jenny Dawes, says (2nd December 2020). In the update published at the end if the OP, Tony Freudmann is quoted as saying “We and our investors …”. It is very interesting that RSP choose not to. Nothing could be clearer than that. The secretary of state for transport allowed the DCO into whether the former airport in Thanet could reopen as a cargo airport with the potential for future passenger flights in July, to a mixed reaction from both supporters and anti-airport campaigners. This is great news. If this particular JR application was without merit, then not only would the judge not have capped Ms Dawes’ costs, she would have disallowed the application completely. What grand announcements? unless people are going to be flying out of manston standing on pallets, as they will as it is a cargo hub that is going to open, saying not enough people using it means it will fail is nonsense. The SoS went to Parliament to defer the Manston decision for a second time until July. A decision is expected to be made this week on the future of Manston Airport in Thanet. 1% of the population hold the rest to ransom with legal challenges while picking fleas out of their dreadlocks and wafting the bong smoke from their eyes while playing Creedence Clearwater Revival’s “Bad Moon Rising” on a ratty acoustic guitar with 4 chords. I certainly marked a ballot paper with an ‘X” in a suitable box! “A decision by the Secretary of State over the development consent order to create a cargo hub at the Manston airport site has been pushed back by four months. Graham Bull- I take it you are referring to Grant Shapps and his mates in thelast two words? Interested parties include the applicant, the local authority and anyone who previously registered by filling out a Relevant Representation form at the inquiry stage (and had it accepted as valid). The project to reopen Manston as a cargo hub though is doomed to failure whatever the outcome of the JR. Bill, the only thing being cooked is RSP’s goose , Wondering what playlist RSP and the pro-ecocide and Pro-Ramsgate-destruction commenters like “Labour Loony Left” might listen to whilst drinking the Kool Aid? The decision on whether to use Manston as an airport again has been delayed for four months. The Examining Authority (made up of professional planners) at the public hearing determined that the outcome for Manston would be seven flights a night on average during the night time period. Sally Fiction doesn’t know one end of a spreadsheet for the other. The costs cap means if the case falls Ms Dawes will only be expected to pay a limited amount of incurred expenditure. RTC have already used taxpayers money towards this JR that in itself should be examined by a court as to was the correct process used by the council to use that money. Any idea why Shapps would completely ignore the recommendations of the planning inspectorate? But it failed and failed and failed (at least once under the failed solicitor Tony Freudmann, director of RSP) Meanwhile, since the granting of a DCO back in July what movement has Riveroak taken to reopen the airport? They sit at home and moan moan moan. There are no co-sponsors.I suppose you get your legal knowledge from FB Law Society! “My lawyers set out three grounds of challenge to the decision to grant a Development Consent Order for the re-opening and development of Manston Airport: Ground 2: Breach of Procedural Requirement/Unfairness. Why would you oppose the review? The Court has now listed a 1.5 day substantive hearing for 16-17 February 2021, of the case which has been brought by the remarkable Jenny Dawes. At the outset of the First World War, the Isle of Thanet was equipped with a small and precarious landing strip for aircraft at St Mildred's Bay, Westgate-on-Sea, on top of the chalk cliffs, at the foot of which was a promenade which had been used for seaplane operations. Than you say you moved 3 years ago thinking the airport was open lol now who’s the silly one, thought the airport was open that’s funny lol. The Manston Airport DCO has been GRANTED This means more Investment in Thanet than it has ever seen before and thousands of high-quality well paid jobs … Today, 9th July 2020 he Secretary of State announced his Decision. This JR is money and time-wasting! As so few actually make it to a hearing there must be good reasons for the judge to agree to hear it. You’ve let Ramsgate rot for decades, and now people who care are making it great again with sustainable jobs. S.116 of the 2008 Act and Regulation 30 of the EIA Regulations both impose a duty on the Defendant to give reasons for granting a DCO. It is understood this means the DCO approval for Manston airport will be quashed and a new decision will need to be issued after a re-examination of the Planning Inspectorate evidence. Not another factory? A decision by the Secretary of State over the development consent order to create a cargo hub at the Manston airport site has been pushed back by four months. As usual Piper was talking rubbish and just trying to sabotage the meeting. Could the Council Treasurerplease explain exactly where the They took over the council in a vote of no confidence. money came from. Neither does HMG Ms Dawes says her action was launched due to fears for the impact locally – particularly Ramsgate – and on the climate. This legal battle will, in the end, have been pointless. The substantive hearing – which involves the lodging of evidence from the defendant, and interested party (RiverOak Strategic Partners Ltd) – was to assess whether the Government followed correct procedure in reaching the decision to approve the DCO for the landowners, even though this overturned the recommendation of the Planning Inspectorate (PI). All content © Airportwatch 2021 unless otherwise stated | Login. We have one way out! We have mobilised a full legal team and will be responding, in full, to the terms of the direction handed down by the High Court yesterday. LOLOLOL. The configuration of their corporate structure makes that very, very self-evident. Don’t you want proper jobs rather than unicorn ones promised by a disgraced solicitor who has failed to run airports multiple times? Then I will seek a judicial review as to how can it be fair or right to cap Jenny Dawes expenditure on requesting this JR then expect the taxpayers to cover any extra cost incurred beyond the cap. that is possibly the most ironic and hypocritical statement I have ever seen on the internet on any subject. As no such judgment has ever gone against a consented DCO, I’m quite relaxed about that, especially since, as I’ve pointed out repeatedly, it is now well-established that the Court of Appeal has upheld every attempt to appeal against any such decision that has been brought to them. Perhaps you should move! Couple that fact with Mr Freudmann’s astonishing track record of failure in business, particularly airports, then we can look forward to the next phase of this long running saga which almost certainly will involve redevelopment. It must have occurred to the most blinkered sociopath that there was a possibility that the JR application would be granted, and to have an appropriate statement ready to release to the press. If a DCO is refused, RSP may wish to bring a judicial review. RSP hasn’t done anything since the DCO was granted because they haven’t gone any staff and they haven’t got any money. This process is run by the Civil Aviation Authority. You mean Ramsgate tax payers and only if needed? So many people still believe RSP’s pie in the sky promises of planes and job… they have their eye on housing as that is the only way they will make any profit from the site. NOW ISV5HEVTIMEVTOMHAVE OUR SAY, I SAY!!! The proposals would permit the reopening and development of Manston Airport, enabling it to become a … All she cares about is the noise. Save money. The airport never created many jobs and the automated cargo hub will create even fewer. Manston Aurport is exactly what Thanet needs !! The recommendations have been sent to Transport Secretary of State (SoS) Grant Shapps, who has 3 … It’s hardly surprising that the elected councillors are doing what they said they’d do! The usual ignorant nonsense from the pros. Bill, I notice Piper never took any action or made any complaints regarding his assertions RTC never followed proper procedure. Info about the case at. Their form of democracy is when it works for them , when it goes against them its an affront!! you are confusing TDC and RTC. At the Examination, RSP made it clear that there will be NO scheduled, charter or any other type of flights at night. To abolish JRs you are effectively embracing fascism. The Secretary of State for Transport has said they will not contest the case. Published 20 May 2020. I wonder what’s happend about the challenges mounted (we are told) by Rev Stuart Piper and others to RTC’s financial support for the JR? The odds against this judicial review succeeding are EXCEEDINGLY remote. We have ALL contributed to the cost so far. The best use for the airport would be to host clean, green industries associated with the future low carbon world. The airport won’t employ them except maybe to scare the birds away. Thanet: A decision on the future of the Manston Airport site has finally been made. The Treasury Solicitor will now draft an order disposing of the case. Totally agree. Published 3 July 2019. The JR bid was launched by Ramsgate Coastal Community Team chairperson Jenny Dawes with a crowfunder raising some £80,000 in pledges to date. Is it true to say that there are huge tax advantages to having your business registered in, say, the British Virgin Islands, rather than Birchington, for example? Not once but twice. Decision over Manston airport site Development Consent Order -due today – still not announced A decision by the Secretary of State due today (May 18) on the long running saga over the development consent order application to create a cargo hub at the Manston airport site has still not been … The CAA have not signed off on anything RSP have done so far. Manston Airport (Image: KentLive) A date for the judicial review into the decision to allow Manston Airport to reopen has been set. We live in a democracy or so we are told in the UK we are vote what government we want to win at the general election those parties that have the best manifesto and policies presumably are the ones that are more likely to be in power to govern the government should be allowed to govan, we hear people saying we don’t want to live under a dictatorship but we are in effect all living under a dictatorship, A dictatorship from the courts a judge sits in a court makes a decision on a judicial review and because it’s comes from the court we all expected to abide by that decision it is purely dictatorship of the worse kind because judges are not even voted in. I urge all those who are concerned by the actions of RTC and Dawes and had she was chosen for that role. They should be paying Ms Dawes, not the other way round! You call the anti, inbred abit rude if I may say. I think we should suggest some new ones for them. All you plane supporters who have never read RSP’s submissions ought to take a step back and think who made a mess of their submission. Now the DfT has acknowledged that the decision approval letter issued from the Minister of State did not contain enough detail about why approval was given against the advice of the PI. Have you read nothing about the damage caused by aviation? Remind me why we went to war against a fascist? There may well be some delays due to the Covid test centre and whatever the Government finds it must do in relation to HGVs after the end of the post-Brexit interim period, but none of that will deflect RiverOak from starting their plans within the months ahead and developing the infrastructure they are now required to complete as consented over the next few years. It will ensure a fair review of the final decision and transparency on the decision making. None of that is unclear to anyone who has read the relevant legislation or examined previous caselaw or legal practitioner manuals on the subject. Are you new to the area by chance? “In the meantime, we continue the CAA airspace change process to determine the future flightpaths for Manston and we have, this week, also reached agreement for Manston to be used as a temporary Customs outpost, until July 2021.”. The decision to proceed was political and very fishy, mates with planes in high places looking out for their other mates with planes. A second extension of deadline for the reopening and redevelopment of Manston Airport has been made, the altered deadline is to 10 July 2020. Published 20 May 2020. If a DCO is granted, another judicial review can be brought on the existing grounds and any further grounds that may arise on review of the decision letter. Why bother with a planning inspectorate if a well-reasoned recommendation can be overturned on a personal whim? “Phyllis Quot” and other Pseudonymists: whether from ignorance or malevolence, perhaps, you complain that RiverOak has not provided particulars about their investors or the portfolios of their investors, yet you won’t reveal your own name on a local newspaper blog? I want to know if the legal cost for this JR exceeds the cost cap I want to know where does the additional money come from to cover that additional cost . The developers, RiverOak Strategic Partners, want to re-open and develop Manston Airport in Thanet into a dedicated air freight facility able to handle at least 10,000 air cargo movements per year while also offering passenger, executive travel, and aircraft engineering services. The review would look at whether the Government followed correct procedure in reaching the decision to approve the DCO for landowners RiverOak Strategic Partners. Sorry if it doesn’t apply to you, I would hate to generalise and be insulting. See the problem! The runway was being used as a mass Covid-19 testing site and makeshift lorry park over Christmas for HGVs travelling to France. Permission has been granted for a challenge. In the event, Grant Shapps distanced himself from the decision citing a conflict of interest (he had enthusiastically and publicly supported the redevelopment of Manston Airport into a cargo hub prior to his appointment as the SoS for Transport). I would be an Interested Party in any such challenge. But even if the JR fails, it’s most unlikely that aircraft will ever fly from Manston. and for those that think there is some sort of covenant, that is meaningless when the old and new owners are in collaboration, why do you think they sold so quickly and easy? It’s status as an airfield has strangled Ramsgate for years. “We and our investors remain fully committed to the Manston project, which will be needed more than ever to support UK global trade, both following the completion of the Brexit transition period on 31 December and as we seek to rebuild the economy following COVID-19.”, Police called to three vehicle crash in Ramsgate, Little ones raise cash for Children’s Air Ambulance, The farce continues (whatever side you’re on)…, Yes and now at Thanet taxpayers expense when cash could be used for more urgent issues elsewhere within the borough. Don’t worry, Dominic Cummings is putting the final nail in the coffin for democracy by moving to abolish JRs, so I hope you enjoy living under a dictatorship. Manston Airport closed in 2014 (Image: Gareth Fuller/PA Wire). The Department of Transport has acknowledged that the Minister of State`s decision letter could have contained more information as to reasons. Somehow I doubt it…. The future of Manston Airport has been subjected to further delay in the light of the application for Judicial Review. Fantasy – Mariah Carey If THE latter, then IT really doesn’t matter HOW many previous JR’s succeeded or NOT. Manston Airport decision put on hold again. Bob, I thought they said “Ready for Rip Off”. Simple questions, how is fuel going to be cheaper brought in by tanker than buying from the national grid ? As for the JR: it hugely transcends arguments about how many jobs the airport (were it ever to happen) might or might not produce, nor about where the overall costs will be paid from. Not a lot, in the opinion of the experts and the PI. End of. These protestors live over the flight path and moved here knowing it!! It’s up the the judge, Mrs Justice Lang, to determine what’s justifiable and what’s not. It’s a legal challenge to the principle that the SoS can completely ignore and override the conclusions of his Planning Inspectorate on a political whim, disregarding the government’s own environmental policies. Where is the money? Alternatively, keep moan moan moaning. Manston is in the wrong place for an airport, as the evidence confirms, and for all those so obsessed when it was last open, it clearly wasn’t enough to stop it going bust over and over. image caption Manston Airport closed in May 2014 with the loss of 150 jobs A decision on the proposed reopening and development of Manston Airport has been delayed, the government has announced. The economic case simply does not add up. Rival plans. Now how is that an affront to democracy? I wouldn’t be totally and utterly astonished if Tony Freudmann grasped this heaven sent opportunity with both hands and used it as an excuse to withdraw from the DCO. To be like me to write to the attorney general and the ministry of housing, communities & local government- GOV.UK. If they have, they will lose. We have a world famous air strip on our door step and narrow minded ppl like you want to pave over it and create houses and shops! According to one of its own councillors ( piper) the council did not use the correct notifications of meetings and incorrect use of procedure. “Nothing could be clearer”? We will be issuing a statement later today or tomorrow morning.”. Why is that? Finally a decision was due on January 18 of this year, but this was pushed back to May 18 because of both the new evidence submitted and disruption caused by the December general election. It failed because it’s in completely the wrong place, people didn’t want to use it, and it’s in possibly the worst place in the UK to function as a freight hub. Have you seen anyone cleansing covid 19.. 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